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La traducción al inglés de las transcripciones de las entrevistas 1 y 2
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Rosa's conversation:
Roxana: We have a project in which we have to ask you questions to learn about your country's history and how you grew.
Rosa: I had a ranch when I was younger and it was divided, when we were growing up we didn't have a bus to travel. I have good and bad stories, maybe I start with the good ones.
Mario: Yes better.
Roxana: Everyone starts with the nice stories (laugh)
Rosa: (laugh)
Mario: Yes
Rosa: Eh ... where I ... I was born on a ranch, but my dad also had a little house in the city and then my dad had a season that we went to the ranch and a season that we left in the city. But when we went to the ranch there we had no light. And so.
Roxana: At the ranch? Yes
Rosa: And then this .. And .. well
Roxana: And what was the ranch like? I mean do you remember?
Rosa: Yes, of course
Roxana: That is when you entered how many ... That is ... You remember all the parts of the ranch and for us try to see it through your eyes ... that is when you went, how did it look on the outside? How I know..
Rosa: Well, outside you looked at the trees ... the green trees and no cars came in.
Roxana: Didn't cars come in?
Rosa: No, there were horses
Roxana: I mean, did you have to enter the ranch using horses?
Rosa: yes yes
Roxana: Ok
Rosa: But at the ranch where I was born, there was the cornfield .. I don't know ..
Mario: Some plants?
Roxana: Those plants? (There was a photo of maize n in the living room) Rosa: I know it like cornfields
Mario: Milapas?
Rosa: So, this ... that happened there, on the ranch where I was born. And in the city .. Mario: What are they? Some plants of ..
Roxana: That one like that in the photo
Rosa: Yes, yes,
Mario: Yes, yes, but is it a plant? Or a flower? It is..
Rosa: No, that's the lot, the corn they say in English
Mario: Ahhh, ok, ok
Roxana: Mario loves plants here and so he knows all the names of plants
Mario: It fascinates me, that's why I wanted to know
Rosa: Aha, there was that, but
Mario: Ok Corn, it's like corn
Rosa: And then at the ranch there, uhh, the season, it was the season that happened ...
Mario: mmm
Rosa: It was, it was a season that started to rain in April but I don't remember what month for the water (laugh)
Roxana: (laugh)
Rosa: So this, when it started to rain in April, the birds were already listening.
Roxana: How cute
Rosa: To sing and everything, it was a nature
Roxana: What a beauty
Rosa: Yes, then flowers of any color began to emerge and I felt that on that ranch I felt that I was born, my garden (with emotion). Because, because the flowers did not sow it. Not that as soon as it started to rain that began to sprout, to grow first and then flowers of any color, of all colors sprouted
Roxana: Of all colors
Rosa: Of all colors. Aha, and I was walking ..
Roxana: And in what area was that, the ranch, in Mexico? To more or less know the section of the ranch
Rosa: Mmm, I don't know if you've heard of ...
Rosa: I am going to tell you about my municipality, it is Cacahuatán.
Roxana: Cacahuatán ...
Rosa: Cacahuatán is a city. Cacahuatán de Tapazapas de Papachulo
Roxana: I have only gone to Mexico to Mexico City, the city, been there
Rosa: But that is the city
Roxana: Yes, but elsewhere
Mario: What is the city?
Roxana: Mexico City
Rosa: Federal District
Mario: Oh yeah, Mexico City
Roxana: I have been there, but I have not been
elsewhere
Rosa: Oh yeah
Roxana: I haven't explored that much, but it's
beautiful
Rosa: So there, I liked the ranch more than the city. It will be because I was born there, but my mom had us a season in the city and we had a season at the ranch.
Roxana: And how did she give birth at the ranch? And you don't say they didn't have any water ... nothing?
Rosa: No water, yes
Roxana: Ahh, ok
Rosa: Clear water, yes, because from there, from there .. this ..
Roxana: Did the rivers flow by?
Rosa: Yes, clao. And there were the ... as they say ... the waterfalls?
Roxana: Yes, the waterfalls ... thus ... waterfalls
Rosa: And from there came cold water, hot water. I was going to bathe there ..
Roxana: Was there hot water in the waterfalls too?
Rosa: Yes, hot, hot
Roxana: Ok
Rosa: So yes ... and I liked (with emotion) going there. And sometimes we put there like a channel
Roxana: Aja
Rosa: And we would put (laugh) And we would take a bath there
Roxana: A channel?
Rosa: Aha, if it was like ... it was from a tree ... it is like this, look
Roxana: Ahh ok
Rosa: So, my dad cut it in the middle, so it was like a little path. And we did not bathe
Roxana: Ah, so it turned out like that?
Rosa: Aha, but that's where the water came from, from the earth. And then and I really enjoyed it
(with excitement and laughter)
Roxana: Look how she remembers the waterfalls
Rosa: Yes, yes then. And the lands so big and I looked down on the city and everything. Everything's good
Roxana: Like the city? From the ranch?
Rosa: Well not the city. I mean from the town
Roxana: Oh from the town ... from the ranch
Rosa: The Ranch Town
Roxana: So you were upstairs?
Rosa: yes yes
Roxana: In the mountains?
Rosa: Yes Roxana: And then you looked at the town
below
Rosa: yes yes
Roxana: Ah, ok
Rosa: And then, eh And everything was on horseback and right now nobody has (laughter) not even a horse there.
Roxana: I can imagine with time
Rosa: And then ...
Roxana: But then did you ride up to the ranch above?
Rosa: Yes, yes on horseback. But we didn't buy food. More than rice and meat. That's what we bought
Roxana: But where did they cook it?
Rosa: There
Roxana: Because in Peru what they do is a
Pachamanca and they do it below ground. They make firewood and everything.
Rosa: Oh yeah!
Roxana: They make a hole
Mario: How delicious
Roxana: Yes, they make a hole, they put stones and everything ... my aunt explained to us how they made it ... and then they put the meats ... but how did you cook? Outside?
Mario: With carbon? Do not? Or with a wood or something?
Roxana: With wood, with stones and they heated it under the ground
Rosa: Yes, yes. There are some who had it that way, but ours was outside
Roxana: Outside
Rosa: Yes, my dad had his own little kitchen to
Roxana: For cooking
Rosa: For cooking
Roxana: So they went to the Town if they need other things and they came back?
Rosa: Ahh ...
Roxana: Or did they bring the meat and all that?
Rosa: I think it was pure meat because the vegetables were all there
Roxana: At the ranch
Rosa: All the vegetables
Roxana: At the ranch
Rosa: Yes, at the ranch and things, we did not buy like, the vegetables we did not buy from the town, nothing more was the meat, and the rings and potatoes. But all the vegetables right there were produced by the ranch. So this ...
Roxana: And then what was the ranch like? You entered as you say by horse you did not enter more.
Rosa: Yes
Roxana: Once you were there, what was it like, what was the ranch made of? Since they had horses, they obviously had scalps, eh what do you remember? Of course you were little too.
Rosa: Well, it had, like a road, a sidewalk ...
Roxana: Yes
Rosa: Where nothing else could happen, what was a mule, a girl, like that, people walked on the sidewalks and that ... like on the descent. To get to the town it was a pure descent, but the return was very difficult, because it was a pure climb. So where I was born is like a ... well, it's a knoll.
Roxana: Ok
Rosa: So, and there it looked very nice
Roxana: So, the mountain was going up, you were going ... going up like this
Rosa: Yes
Roxana: And is it straight, or are there steps like that?
Rosa: No, I had crossed paths, climbs,
Roxana: Like this?
Rosa: Aha, yes of course. First we walked straight ahead and then we had to climb up.
Roxana: Right of the people. Straight or rises?
Rosa: straight ahead
Roxana: Ahh
Rosa: We had several different parts of the property, but the town was complicated. Where I grew up there was a hill and we were going up. It was a difficult journey, many complex trails ... some of them were straight and then turned towards the top. Many times the rancher would be the one who would kill the animals and sell them in the city. I've been in town since I was a baby and then I went to the Mexican border at 15. I was in Miami at 18. I used to play with sheep when I was a child I also loved the peach "granadilla"
Roxana: At the ranch did you have sections where you would grow the plants?
Rosa: Yes, we had different sections, we had black and red beans, we grew cabbage and each vegetable grew during its own time. Once the time dries, everything will turn yellow and you will have to be careful because it could catch fire! We had to decide who would come and who would stay. My grandmother lived to be 100! In the city we had coffee trees and cars passed them. It was not a huge city, but more people than the city.
Roxana: What were you doing at the ranch?
Rosa: We would go cut the cabbage and pluck the potatoes! We would also pluck the coffee from the trees, similar to blueberries. The difference in coffee is that the bean has a shell that we need to wash and pluck! When it's red it is good, if it is green we leave it for another time Many people would grow coffee trees and sell them in the city. They would have them towards the back of their properties. Pacaya grew up in the city, in addition to tangerines, oranges, papayas and pineapples, we also had cocoa! She was a very blessed woman, but we had a problem. Now comes the bad part, the problem was that he had food but we were not happy in our family. My dad mistreated my mother. There was always violence.
Roxana: How many sisters did you have?
Rosa: There were 7 women. 7 sisters as well as a brother, but 2 of us passed away. The last of us is 20 years old. It has been 6 years since my mother decided to leave my father. When I lived with him I was not happy and wanted to go to the country furthest from them. Once I got to the Mexican border, I raised some money. I went with some girls my age and my sister. My mom was telling me to go away, that I shouldn't be seeing these things. I would see a lot of violence and it would bother me a lot. The violence was not only towards my mother, but towards all of us. But I ended up here! We were never hungry, but if it's not one thing, it's another When I was 12 years old, I would think I wanted to go far. I don't like these people! I want to get away from them I've had to get a lot of therapy because of all of that. My dad told us to hurry up and start working and that we had no value in life. My dad always wanted boys and he always got upset because we were girls who couldn't help him. He never used to talk about this and he would listen to people talk about similar things and he would get very sentimental When I came to Miami I realized that I had a wrong perception of life. When I returned there (Chiapa) it was the same and things were not different. I did not want to continue there. My cousin, his sister and his wife came to the United States and asked me if I had enough money to make the trip. The husband of my older sister brought her once I came with my cousin and his wife. I turned 18 here and I've been here for 18 years Basically my whole family has been here. My father was killed in another city because he was a drunkard who dealt with many women. He abandoned his ranch and basically stopped working. I asked him why he kept sending him money
Roxana: Do you have children?
Rosa: I have 3 children! One is 17, 13 and 11! I told my daughter about my life in town and she likes the city. I tell him all the good things like how beautiful the flowers are
Roxana: Do you miss it?
Rosa: I know I want to go back. But the ranch is abandoned now, so I couldn't go back there. My daughter says oh mom, you think you will always be young! That you can sit on a horse and ride it! She says you can go live in Mexico but I will not visit you.
Roxana: You have a reason to want to come back! All your great memories
Rosa: I always think that once I get back I could remember all the bad things that happened.
Roxana: You can always come back and take a vacation. It used to be clean, but now it's going to be work and people have probably stolen everything from the property.
Rosa: Of course! If there is no watchman, he would be gone! We used to have dogs, cats, chickens, and lots of animals. We didn't have to buy eggs because we had them at the ranch
Roxana: It must have been a great ranch
Rosa: Yes, but the cars never got there ... only in the city
Roxana: When you were at the ranch, how were your house and the neighbors? Was it made of wood?
Rosa: No! It was a big house with big walls and my dad made the walls out of metal material and then if you kept going straight you would get to the rooms with wooden dividers. I forgot the name of that material, but it was like a rock-like material. My grandfather still knows how to build this type of house. My dad had a shed near our house that was also made of this material. It had many old things like pots and spoons. It had a wooden bed base but it was old. He would store all his old items there We would also put all the corn there. The small storage shed was in front of the house.
Roxana: Can you draw what the property looks like?
Rosa: We were going up the hill, we passed my grandparents' house and then it was our house and the little stone house in the back. The waterfalls were to the left of the property and it took 20 minutes to walk There was also a small hill at the top of the waterfall.
Roxana: What is the difference with when you were cultivating when you were young and when you came to Miami?
Rosa: Now I have skin rashes and allergies, so I don't like to touch the earth here, it used to be all natural, so it didn't happen to me. When I used to be there, I had low self-esteem, but now nobody can do that to me, I no longer wanted to live there because I always felt bad, I don't know why. Maybe people were bitter.
Roxana: How did you meet your husband?
Rosa: I got to know him in a duplex. We lived facing each other. We met and now 18 years have passed. Around the time I got here. Then we started dating and we got to know each other better and then we got married I didn't want to marry him because when we lived with him we knew each other as friends. Then I had my daughter and I lost patience to get married in church, so I got married. I got married 4 years ago but I've been with him since he was 18 years old. Oh, I forgot to say! When women gave birth on the ranch, there always had to be a midwife.
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